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Posted 26 July 2010 - 12:57 AM

Hi

I have worked fairly hard at my form recently but something is still wrong and frustrates me endlessly :) :)

I'm shooting fairly well at the moment (for me) but every once in a while the bow would jerk/jump at the moment of release, leading to a bad 4 on the 5 spot target. I cannot for the life of me figure out what I'm doing when this happens.

I've tweaked my drawlength and the ring (I shoot with a ring on the lens) floats nicely on the target. The bow used top want to dip out low, but with Griv's DVD I've also got that sorted out.

The jump is normally high and right.

Any ideas?

Thanks.
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 10:01 AM

View Postjcdup, on 26 July 2010 - 01:57 AM, said:

Hi

I have worked fairly hard at my form recently but something is still wrong and frustrates me endlessly :) :)

I'm shooting fairly well at the moment (for me) but every once in a while the bow would jerk/jump at the moment of release, leading to a bad 4 on the 5 spot target. I cannot for the life of me figure out what I'm doing when this happens.

I've tweaked my drawlength and the ring (I shoot with a ring on the lens) floats nicely on the target. The bow used top want to dip out low, but with Griv's DVD I've also got that sorted out.

The jump is normally high and right.

Any ideas?

Thanks.


One thing that it might be is loss of tension either in the back muscles or the bow arm. If the shot breaks because of a loss of forward tension and the increase in tension is from the bow pulling forward making your shot fire it can feel like a jerk/jump. Just a thought - without watching you shoot it's hard to say for sure.
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Posted 27 July 2010 - 12:05 AM

Thanks Kyle

I'll try to check for the loss of tension when this happens again.
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Posted 27 July 2010 - 08:27 PM

I would also agree about the loss of back tension,A sort of creep forward caused that jump for me, but also bow wieght/front stabilizer weight for me used to allow to much movemeny if the shot was not good strong back tension , and the bow would jump up on me. with the more weight on the front stabilizer its more stable(harder for the bow to jump) , try it you might like it!
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 08:08 PM

I think that Kyle is spot on about the loss of tension.

But,for me, there is also a mental aspect to that particular problem. Loss of concentration and less than total commitment to the shot is what caused me to lose BT. I was plagued by that "little jerk" for several years and finally realized that I was giving up on the shot a little too quickly. My solution is to blank bale to improve and extend my follow through and to let down if my attention even flickers from the front end of the shot to the back end.

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 12:01 AM

Thanks everyone. With your help & reading Al Henderson's "Understanding Winning Archery" I'm sure that this happens when I allow my front end to collapse.

The solution seems to be to stand up straight & ensure that there is no hint of a crouch in my form.

Anything else I could look at?

Thanks again
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 02:22 AM

Normally a front shoulder collapse results in a low-left shot (if your a right hander)

Try to maintain the balance of your draw weight between your two hands. Each hand doing its job of maintaining and balancing the shot.


Also you could be a touch short in DL. I have often found that when people are short in the draw (even by a small amount) that when executing it will result in a small upwards movement at the point of release. this is often hard to diagnose, as most people don't see the movement they just see the result. again people often try to counter this with more weight up front, but that wears you down quicker and will result in front shoulder collapse, resulting in more misses. i would say get a good balance on your bow (read GRIVs stabilizer articles) let out your draw by 1/8-1/4 and keep the preasure even through the hands.



View Postjcdup, on 18 August 2010 - 04:01 PM, said:

Thanks everyone. With your help & reading Al Henderson's "Understanding Winning Archery" I'm sure that this happens when I allow my front end to collapse.

The solution seems to be to stand up straight & ensure that there is no hint of a crouch in my form.

Anything else I could look at?

Thanks again

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 10:26 AM

Lots of good responses here. I would also like to add that it may be more of a mental issue than a physical one. If you are anticipating the shot breaking and for a fraction of a second change focus from aiming to the release you can get the result you are describing.

Work on maintaining focus through the entirety of the shot. All the way until the arrow hits the target.
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